Thank you for commenting…I am not part of the OEI project and I am also trying to understand the whole concept behind it. Take a closer look at the Henri Pirkkalainen comment in the discussion above…

Lot’s of good discussion here!
Om OEI we’re looking at the community aspect from a new direction. The thing is that there are already various communities for teachers to share and discuss OER but these teachers still seem to have a hard time adopting OER.
In OEI we look at collaborative development of OER in specific. This is something that hasn’t really been touched upon existing OER initiatives. We wouldn’t build any own community tool but a lightweight idea generator where a person can structure and link different groups and artefacts together.
So it is not really that we are challenging OER, we’re just exploring ways to get teachers actually collaborating in OER development.

I am concerned about who will be sharing ideas. Will they be users of resources (involved in the later stages of the reuse lifecycle). If not how will they get access to the ideas of users?

Chris

I tend to shy away from anything efquel – I have real concerns with openness and quality initiatives

As far as I can see the OEI project is trying to solve the problems with sharing/creating OER even before they are constructed…There is a great deal of problems that arise while working with OER so having a framework for creation of OER would be really great: it would solve the issues that might arise even before sharing OER…If the OEI project is aiming at finding the barriers that OER creators might have it would establish a framework that can help in defining the pre-conditions. I still think Prof. Pawlowski can further explain the concept behind the OEI since I just find out about the project. However, it is really interesting having different approach toward the OER issues and I think that OEI is one of those cases.

I totally get what you are saying. When I created the immersive informatics materials (http://immersiveinformatics.org) I reused lots of content. The first thing I did was trawl what there was already and created a spreadsheet. “I want the video from here, I want the quiz from there, I want the image from here” etc.

However my understanding is that the OEI project want to take a further step back, so sharing the ideas behind the development – mind maps, sketches etc. They are also creating a tool to help organise these ideas – no idea what it is going to be yet, but could be something pretty cool – and as you say the tool economy is not great.

I’d suggest you share your thoughts with the OEI Project team – I’m sure they’d be really interested to hear them.

Marieke

Say an OER with a video and audio and a quiz. Logically to be more open, you’d share the video, audio and quiz separately. This is where – http://blogs.it.ox.ac.uk/openspires/2012/03/27/an-oer-star-rating/ – kicks in. It’s basically “show your working”.

Or, alternatively, make an OER breaker tool. Takes pics out of PDFs, stills from videos, bits of MP3s and so on

The OER tool economy is pretty bad though, not a lot out there.

Sorry if I made this sound like agreed thoughts, they were more musings from different individuals. The issues you have picked up on are precisely those that the project is exploring.

So to ask you a couple of questions – what are the elements that make up an OER? How can they be shared?

The Open Educational Ideas project is hoping to come up with some possible answers.

Marieke

Marieke

Not sure I agree with this – I don’t believe OERs have to have “goals” and surely “finished” is a problem term?

The Wabi-sabi stuff and “finished” can just be solved by sharing all of the ingredients that make up an OER (should the OER contain parts).